I was invited to present the pro-life position at Central Michigan University for about 25 minutes. Then, anyone in the audience was given a chance to debate me. People took turns with their challenges for about an hour. The biology department students were offered extra credit if they could debunk my scientific claims. This video is the first five minutes of that presentation.
Part One
Part Two
Part Three
Part Four
STR Place Blog 
Are you going to post the rest of it? Sounds riveting!
If the unborn is a human being, then no justification for elective abortion is adequate — unless the life of the mother is unambiguously threatened. Then, demanding that a woman sacrifice her life for her child’s is too much, and morally unacceptable. The woman may choose to risk this, but it should not be demanded of her.
my thought to your response is that you are both redefining (or perhaps just confusing) terms and leaving others ambiguously defined. On the first count, an elective abortion is not a medically necessary abortion. On the second count, the phrase “unless the life of the mother is unambiguously threatened” demands clear definitions and multiple clarifications.
Life? Unambiguously? Threatened?
Mark-
You’re obviously not a doctor, but I am. What Philwynk is clearly stating is that anyone who wants an abortion for whatever reason is morally wrong if the fetus is a life. Indeed, the heartbeat of the fetus, also called Fetal Heart Tones, can be heard with a doppler at about 10 or so weeks after gestation. You have a heart beat and you’re alive, I assume, why isn’t he/she??
He’s also saying a medically necessary abortion isn’t elective anymore. There’s nothing ambiguous about what he said. “To save the mother’s life” is a very rare reason these days with modern medicine to need an abortion. I work upwards of 6-9 months/year in Africa doing humantarian surgery and medicine. Even there, we don’t abort babies to save the mom. It just is so rare to need.
Stated thus, there’s almost never a reason to justify an abortion–either ‘medically necessary’ or because the fetus is actually living.
Aren’t you glad you’re mother decided to keep you?
I stand corrected. My physician wife just informed me that the fetus’ heart beats at 3 weeks after conception (which can be viewed on an ultrasound at 7 weeks gestation). I’m just a surgeon.
Anyway, I think the idea is fairly clear. We don’t need semantics to blur it and convince people of what the facts show.