Challenge: Jesus Wasn’t Omniscient

Posted: June 14, 2011 by Amy Hall in Jesus Changes Everything, Weekly Challenge

The challenge this week is a question from Chuck, one of our readers:

Matthew 24:36-38 says, “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

1) If Jesus is omniscient/God, why did He not know? 2) Does this verse exclude the Holy Spirit from knowing, therefore rendering Him not omniscient?

Brett is back in town again this week, so he’ll be covering the answer to this challenge on Thursday. But first, let’s hear what you think!

Comments
  1. Kevin Carr says:

    Jesus in the fullness of his human qualities is also bound by space, time, and matter, whereas God the Father is not. There are a lot of things that Jesus does and does not do in regards to his fully human nature.
    For example, does Jesus in his fully human nature need to study the scriptures in his early years or does he already know them from his birth? I think he still would need to learn them.
    Does Jesus in his fully human nature know everything there is to know about EVERYTHING including how many hairs are on the heads of every single human being walking around the face of the earth? Is he listening to every prayer every moment from every soul on the planet? I think not.
    It comes down to Jesus in his fully human nature, versus Jesus in the fullness of his deity.
    It’s tough to think about…kind of like pondering the Trinity.

  2. Tim Eakins says:

    1) If Jesus is omniscient/God, why did He not know?

    Jesus is God, this we know. There are two things Jesus has given up to take on humanity. One of these things is omniscience, the other… omnipresence. Like Kevin above posted… when Jesus entered into creation, meaning taking on the attributes of our 4 dimensions, He gave over some ability. Because of the verse cited in the challenge, we know, Jesus… as man, does not know the day and hour of His return. He is waiting for the Father to say “Go get ’em, Son!”

    We also know by many other verses that Jesus also seems to have specific locality… that is, seated at the right hand of the Father. Phillipians 2:6 gives us some insight into this, also.

    I do not think we fully understand the transaction that took place when the Fa6ther gave His only Son.

    As for what it is required to be God… I do not think giving over certain attributes does not make Him less God, or less elligible to be god. Simply for the fact that if we lost eyesight… or hearing, are we no less human?

    That being said…

    2) Does this verse exclude the Holy Spirit from knowing, therefore rendering Him not omniscient?

    No..

    The verse says plainly that no MAN… it has no bearing on the other persons in the Godhead. Only Jesus is the God-man.

    The glimpses that we get into the fellowship of the Godhead, i.e. Trinity, are amazing. It is the Father Who gives, Jesus Who does the will of His Father… and the Spirit Who testifies of works of the Son.

    Just my rudimentary understanding of it all…

    • Sam Harper says:

      Tim, you said, “We also know by many other verses that Jesus also seems to have specific locality… that is, seated at the right hand of the Father. Phillipians 2:6 gives us some insight into this, also.” Do you mean that Jesus is literally sitting at the right hand of the Father? If you take that literally, wouldn’t that mean the Father actually has a right side? And would THAT imply that the Father is also physical?

  3. Albert says:

    We need a ‘Like’ button for comments, as Kevin and Tim have covered it fairly well.

    • Tim says:

      I understand that Jesus maybe didn’t know things because of his full human nature. But what about the Holy Spirit? If only the Father knows, then the Holy Spirit doesn’t, right?

  4. Kelly says:

    Using this to refute Christ’s Godhood is like using a lack of one sense to refute someone’s humanness. If someone is missing a sense, are they not human? It is not the quality of omniscience that makes God who he is, it is because he is God that he is omniscient. Christ is God because he is one part of the trinity, he is positionally part of the Godhead, and this is not because he is or isn’t omniscient. God can choose the attributes he has and does not have, because he is God. In order to fulfill his plan God can choose to know or not know anything he desires. He knows by choice, and if the son does not know something it is because God so chose, this choice does not change who God is.

  5. Pravda Veritas says:

    This verse is dealing with the God-head. Simply put, three in person, one in nature. Christ is one of the persons of the God-head, not God in whole. In his human form, Christ(God the Son) does not know what day He will come back. Christ states that God the Father(another one of the persons of the Trinity) knows the day. So, to answer the first question directly, CHRIST IS A PERSON OF THE GOD-HEAD, NOT GOD IN WHOLE. God in whole knows the day, but God in part does not.

    Thus, this answers the second question; no, the Holy Spirit does not know. In Acts One, Christ tells the disciples that he will give them a comforter, God the Holy Spirit. The job of the Holy Spirit is to comfort us, not to know the day Christ will come back.

  6. Tom Rankin says:

    He also expresses amaze-ment at the faith of the Centurion & of the Syro-Phoenician woman.

    Is Jesus, before he died, like a time-sharing computer terminal with local files which were downloaded from a larger Mainframe computer?

    He prays all night before selecting the Disciples (just before the Sermon on the Mount).
    He suffered so that we may “follow in his steps” (-1st Peter 2:21).

    @ Pravda Veritas –The Holy Spirit knew the time of Christ’s return when he was alive_:
    1st Corinth-ians 2:10 = “… for the Spirit [of God] searches all things, even the depths of God.”

    @ Sam Harper — Colossians 2:9 =
    “For in Him all the fullness of Deity [theo-tetos, J.W.’s say divine quality] dwells in ~bodily form~, ….”

    –Tom R. [my other FB page : http://www.FaceBook.com/tee.ar2 ]